Nick Johnson vs. Johnny Damon: Who's The Better Two-Spot Hitter?
Written by Greg Fertel   
Friday, 05 February 2010 17:56

Johnny DamonIt's all but official that Nick Johnson will be the number two hitter in the Yankees lineup, taking Johnny Damon's place in that spot. There are many fans who aren't sold on the idea of putting Johnson in the two-hole, and wanted the Yankees to re-sign Johnny Damon so he could be plugged back in there.

Their thinking is that while Nick Johnson has superior on-base skills, his speed(or lack thereof) will do the team damage in the two-hole. Last season, the Yankees switched Johnny Damon and Derek Jeter in the lineup and one of the reasons was that Jeter was hitting into too many double plays.

Johnny Damon, on the other hand, is one of the best players in the majors at avoiding double plays. On average, batters hit into double plays in around 11 percent of their double play opportunities. For his career, Johnny Damon has only hit into double plays in five percent of his chances.

The switch was definitely successful in this regard. Damon had a career high 160 double play opportunities and hit into only nine double plays(5.6 percent). Jeter had only 106 opportunities and still hit into 18 double plays(17 percent).

Basically, if the Yankees didn't switch them and they had faced the each other's double play opportunities instead, they would have combined for 33 double plays instead of 27. While this isn't a huge number, it makes a difference. On average, a double play costs a team .35 runs. So, it seems that this switch netted the Yankees 2.1 runs, just based on double plays. This isn't especially substantial, it's important for teams to find runs wherever they can.

Nick JohnsonNow lets bring the newly acquired Nick Johnson into play. Johnson is the ideal number two hitter for statheads everywhere. Last season, he put together an absurd .426 OBP, good for third in the majors. It's unlikely he'll post such an impressive number again in 2010, but getting on base has always been Johnson's specialty.

Damon is no slouch in that department either, as he got on base at a .365 clip last season. As we all know, just using last season's numbers is not an effective way to project a player going forward.

CHONE projects that Johnson will put up a .392 OBP in 2010 while Damon will have a .357 OBP. While getting on base is extremely important, I wanted to see if Damon's other prowess make up for the big OBP gap between the two players.

I prorated each of their CHONE batting lines to 600 plate appearances and got that Damon projects to be worth 10 runs above average and Johnson projects to be around 20 runs above average, so he has a nice ten run advantage here.

Now, onto baserunning. Johnson is known as a very slow runner, and that's an accurate description. Damon has always been quick, but he only stole 12 bases in 2009. I'm sure part of this is based on the fact that you don't want to risk getting caught stealing when Mark Teixeira and Alex Rodriguez are coming up behind you. In terms of total baserunning value, Damon gains some runs back.

Using a simple MARCEL-like 5-4-3 projection with some regression of the two players eqBRR, I get that Damon has around a four run edge on the bases. Cut Nick Johnson's advantage down to six runs now.

Getting back to where we started, Damon stands to make up some more ground because of his superb ability to avoid the double play. Looking at their career numbers on Baseball-Reference, I'd say it's fair to make a rough estimate that Damon will hit into a double play in six percent of his opportunities and Johnson will in 12 percent of his.

The player hitting second in the Yankees lineup is sure to see a ton of double play opportunities, but there's no real way of knowing how many. I'm just going to put the number at 150, slightly below the number Damon had last season.

Using that -.35 linear weight and the 11 percent average, we find that Damon projects to be around 2.5 runs above average and Johnson looks to be about a half of a run below average. Put it all together and here's what we get:

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When the Yankees signed Johnson, I assumed he would be a huge upgrade over Damon batting second because of his 35 point edge in OBP; it just isn't that cut and dry. The numbers tell me it is way closer than I thought, but they still bear out the fact that Johnson is the better option for the Yankees.

There are still some people who would prefer Damon to Johnson in the two-spot, but the numbers suggest that's the wrong move. As I said earlier, teams need to find ways to add runs in any little way they can. Just from an offense and lineup perspective, the Yankees did just that by signing Nick Johnson to be their two hitter.

Photo Credit: Peter Jennings/Icon SMI (Damon)
Photo Credit: Chris Trotman/Getty Images (Johnson)

Thanks to Daniel of Camden Crazies and Matt K. of FanGraphs for some help with these numbers. Also, I feel like I may have just put some numbers in here without fully explaining them. I didn't want to overwhelm the piece with numbers, so if you have any questions about my methodology just let me know and I'll elaborate.

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written by RollingWave, February 05, 2010
Very nice post, would be more interesting to see Johnson / Granderson comp to Damon / Matsui .

Johnson vs Damon is a tough gamble. on the one hand Johnny is turning 36, while Nick is 5 years younger, on the other hand the 36 year old ahve been much healthier than the 31 year old (to put it mildly) and havn't shown any clear sign that he won't be as healthy from here on. (where as Matsui...)
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written by Greg F., February 05, 2010
Yeah I was trying to keep it simple and just see who would be a better fit for the two hole... if you're looking for those two versus eachother, Will Moller did a post about that at IIATMS: http://www.itsaboutthemoney.ne...anged.html

I would've used a different methodology, but my basic opinion is the same. Whether or not Damon+Matsui were better in 2009, they are older and you can expect them to regress. Because of that and Granderson's EXTREME defensive advantage, there's no doubt in my mind that Granderson + Johnson > Matsui + Damon for 2010.
Chone drastically underrates Johnson
written by Don W, February 06, 2010
Chone is calling for NJ to hit .266 with 13 HR's. I think the HR's are a little low considering YSIII but not too bad. The average though is way low. Except for his injury plagued 2007-8 when he had only 109 PA's since 2005 NJ has hit .289, .290 & .291. What about NJ would lead to a prediction of a 25 point drop in average? Especially when you factor in a few cheap HR's that will boost his average...just as it did Damon.
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written by Greg F., February 06, 2010
Those are some good points, and the FANS projections agree with you. They think he'll hit .289 which is right in line with the numbers you're giving. There's no real way for us to know if he's going to rebound from his injuries and hit with power again, but that would be tremendous if he got back to his 2006-level of power. The short right field porch can only help there.

I do think Johnson will be very productive, but I think it's fair to predict a drop in his batting average. Last season, Johnson had a career high .342 BABIP. His career mark is .313, so I'd expect we see a number closer to that in 2010, which will result in a lower average..
Who believes Nick will bat 2nd?
written by Rooster, February 07, 2010
When all is finally decided Nick will be batting 5th followed by Cano. Granderson and Swisher will platoon in the 2 hole.
I do.
written by Greg F., February 07, 2010
Platooning Granderson and Swisher in the two hole wouldn't make much sense. They are both power guys with lower on base percentages than Johnson, so they should be lower in the lineup than him.

Also, there's a quote from Cashman regarding his negotiations with Boras, where he said something like: Boras said I wouldn't be able to sign a #2 hitter for less than whatever he was asking for Damon at the time. I went out and signed our #2 hitter for less than half that.

NJ BABIP
written by Don W, February 07, 2010
However, his most recent 3 full seasons his BABIP have been:
.329
.320
.338

The 2009 # is a little high but it's not terribly different than his previous couple of full seasons. I fully expect the extra flys that land in the seats to make up for any drop in BABIP. YSIII did drag down BABIP last year though. I still figure him for about .280-.300 average

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